Response to & “Apparently Black Lives Matter More than Chickens or Cows Lives Apparently”

Interesting that one would post this on Twitter. Just recently, VeganRevolution tweeted this:

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I really don’t have many words or time to spend on this. The tweet for me implies, “A Black person has no rights that the white vegan post-racial world is bound to respect.” 

Overall, my response would simply be that folk refer to my interview with The Feminist Wire about intersectional approaches to Black Lives Matter and Veganism as well as the comprehensive Vegan Praxis of Black Lives Matter interactive web conference that took place (was recorded) from April 24-25 2015. The entire event was recorded with Powerpoints. Listen and watch and then determine for yourself if Vegan Revolutions’ perspective is rooted in ahimsa based praxis of alleviating systemic suffering and oppression or not. I also want to suggest that for me, there is no use getting angry, writing sick and disgusting responses to the Tweet, etc. There really is no point to engage that way. I engage in ahimsa based responsive actions… like write award winning masters thesis about covert white supremacy among white vegans (Harvard 2007), dissertation about neoliberal whiteness and systemic violence in the vegan food commodity chain (UC system 2013), and organize conferences to educate about veganism, whiteness, and black feminist theorizing. So far, folk who write things like VeganRevolution don’t seem to be doing the same as myself to really ‘back up’ their points. I prefer basing my thoughts on anti-racism and anti-speciesism based social science methods and methodologies before tweeting out things like the above.

Click on poster below for more info about accessing the recordings and learning how veganism and Black Lives Matter aren’t separate or contradictory.

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0 thoughts on “Response to & “Apparently Black Lives Matter More than Chickens or Cows Lives Apparently”

  1. VeganRevolution can post a lot of nonsense and rubbish. I’ve unfollowed them. As you say, it’s pointless to engage on certain levels. I’m going to be downloading the conference. I’m very interested and have seen some really interesting posts about it.

  2. Vegan Revolution also tweeted about hoping the inuit are wiped off the planet (because they’re “choosing” to not be vegan), among other repugnant things.

    If that’s the “vegan revolution” then I don’t want to be a part of it.

      1. Yes. He’s urged me to use the same rhetoric to “spread the vegan message” in DMs. I drew my line in the sand after he attacked Baltimore protesters some of whom were actually part of a vegan anarchist community there. He also used the N-word and verbally attacked a young black man who dared to question his tweets or his right to use such derogatory language. I reported several of his Tweets and it looked like his account was taken down but it’s back up again and he has blocked me from it. Disturbingly people I follow are still retweeting him and talking about how its an honor to be on his podcast. Ugh.

        1. Vegan Revolution asked me to come onto their podcast to interview me after I explained how their “Black Lives Matter…” comment was deeply hurtful and nonproductive. I declined because I just don’t understand why I need to go onto their space to PROVE that Black Lives Matter, matters! I am not hateful against them and won’t waste my time with that energy.

  3. Yah, that account is deeply problematic on MANY different fronts, and there’s no point trying to engage whoever it is — they (and their fanboys) just lash out, sometimes viciously. The real problem, as I see it, is all the people RTing and faving the tweet. That’s more disturbing to me than the original tweet. Hmmm…. I wonder if we (VINE) ought to try to engage THEM (the fav and RTers) in some way…

    1. I am not going to try. I think they do it on purpose and want to act the way they do on purpose. For me it would be too much to try to engage with them beyond my response on this blog which I’m sure will eventually make it back to them. They have the info to the conference if they really want to ‘know’. Thanks though, VINE/pattrice.

      1. Hello Amie,

        For clarity.
        The thing to understand is that at that time twitter changed the format so that as people commented on a tweet publicly it also counted as a RT. Also some people favourite it as a reference for themselves later.
        I say inflammatory things to get people talking about issues that matter.

        I personally consider myself a racial equality activist – and Veganism extends to humans as well as we are also animals.
        The discrimination in amongst our own species is a continuation of the same mindset of that we have to other species.
        I tweeted this after getting frustrated having been sent a picture of bacon by a young black girl who also had #BLACKLIVESMATTER & #BLACKHISTORYMONTH in her bio.

        Veganism starts with a reflection of our own oppressive behaviour rather than blaming others for theirs – this tweet forced people to start a conversation in communities over a concept that is often invisible.

        I have the same sincerity as you – just different methods.

    2. The thing to understand is that at that time twitter changed the format so that as people commented on a tweet publicly it also counted as a RT. Also some people favourite it as a reference for themselves later.
      I say inflammatory things to get people talking about issues that matter.
      I personally consider myself a racial equality activist – and Veganism extends to humans as well as we are also animals.
      The discrimination in amongst our own species is a continuation of the same mindset of that we have to other species.
      I tweeted this after getting frustrated having been sent a picture of bacon by a young black girl who also had #BLACKLIVESMATTER & #BLACKHISTORYMONTH in her bio.
      Veganism starts with a reflection of our own oppressive behaviour rather than blaming others for theirs.

  4. Whoops, I just saw that we (VINE, a vegan farmed animal sanctuary) is blocked by “Vegan Revolution.” So, we can’t access that tweet to maybe reach out to those who RTed and faved it.

  5. I’m sorry but I just have to be frank and say that there are lots of non racialized vegans/ vegetarians who think this way. After your talk at the ivy league vegan conference I recall a certain vegan blogger writing that your paper wasn’t necessary cos it dealt with racism. And when you (very humbly in my opinion) set her straight on her blog, another commentator made comments about your being a mother that was very racist in my opinion. Why is there very little conversation for example in the vegan community about how black rastafarians were doing this healthy Vegan thing as part of their ‘ital’ nutrition ages before vegan ism became popular in North America? Why us the face of veganism in Nirth America the lithe upperclass blonde?

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